At a glance
Noah’s Flood Revisited does more than argue that the Flood was regional; it sketches how one could have worked — where the water came from, how the ark traveled uphill, and why no deposit has been found. This response takes the sketch seriously and asks the question any proposed mechanism invites: what would it take to test it?
By the middle of the book, the case for a regional Flood is complete in outline. What follows is the constructive half of the project: a proposal for how such a Flood could have happened. The book assembles a footprint, a water budget, a mechanism for the ark’s journey, and an answer to the hardest archaeological question — why nothing has been found. It presents all of this with visible hedging, as a set of conditional scenarios rather than a finished simulation, and it gathers others’ research where it can [1].
That constructive half deserves to be examined on its own terms. A response that only audited claims of absence would be doing half its work; this response instead asks what the proposal would need in order to be more than a possibility — and checks the points where its own cited sources do, and do not, carry the load.
The book’s case, stated as strongly as it deserves
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The footprint is conditional by design. The book places the Flood’s maximum region across the Persian Gulf and Mesopotamia, with adjoining Arabian and Iranian lowlands and parts of the Red Sea and eastern Mediterranean — and sketches a smaller, Gulf-centered footprint under colder conditions. It states plainly that the extent of pre-Flood human settlement cannot be precisely determined [1].
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The water sources are named. Genesis 7’s springs of the deep are read as aquifers and karst springs; the floodgates of heaven as rain clouds; and the months-long recession is read as requiring continuing inflow — rain, aquifer discharge, and, on the book’s proposal, meltwater from distant ice [2].
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The ark’s journey has a mechanism. Because a Mesopotamian Flood would have floated the ark toward the Persian Gulf, the book reports Alan Hill’s model in which sustained winds drive the ark upstream, roughly 1,100 kilometers inland, toward the Ararat region [3].
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The timeline is bounded. The book’s synopsis places the removal of the ark’s covering about 375–377 days after the Flood began, and ties the long recession to the same story [4].
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The judgment was inescapable within its region. The book infers that the waters rose and spread too rapidly for people outside the ark to escape — which is the point of the judgment, on this reading [5].
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The aftermath was for blessing. It even sketches downstream benefits: runoff and volcanism associated with the ice sheets’ retreat, fertilizing the plains Noah’s descendants would farm [6].
Paraphrase
The book’s own presentation is careful. It calls the maximum footprint conditional; it notes that pre-Flood settlement cannot be precisely placed; it describes the Hormuz barrier breach as a possibility rather than an identified event; and it concedes that no diagnostic deposit would be expected to survive. Where the book supplies numbers — a minimum flood volume, an ark mass, a modeled journey — they come from its cited studies rather than from a simulation of its own. The chapters read less like a settled reconstruction than like a research program sketched in footnotes, assembled from the work of Carol and Alan Hill, regional geology, and ice-age climate records.
[1] Noah’s Flood Revisited, chapters 11–14 and 19
What the model gets right
Three acknowledgments belong here, and they are not small.
First, the book offers the right kind of thing. A proposed mechanism with named water sources, a bounded footprint, a transport model, and stated conditionals is exactly what a historical flood proposal should look like — far more useful than a bare appeal to miracle. The objection that a regional Flood “would have floated the ark into the Persian Gulf” is engaged, not waved away.
Second, the book keeps its scenarios visibly conditional. Its footprint language is explicitly conditional; the barrier section says “might”; the fertility proposal is presented as an application of deglacial processes, not as an identified event. This response will test the proposal on its own terms and will not treat its hedges as claims.
Third, two things follow even if the model fails its tests. A missing diagnostic deposit is not logically identical to proof that no local catastrophe occurred. And a model that cannot presently be tested is not thereby false — it is unfinished. Both of those belong to the book, and this site agrees with both.
Test one: does the water arithmetic close?
The model’s working parts are mostly published elsewhere, so they can be examined at the source level. The book’s cited companion papers are candid about what they are: Carol Hill’s qualitative hydrology argues the meteorological plausibility of prolonged Mesopotamian rainfall and aquifer discharge [7], and Alan Hill’s quantitative companion computes the wind-driven ark transport [8]. Those papers are the model’s real foundation. They are also proposals of a particular kind: nature-miracle scenarios offered by their authors precisely as scenarios — plausibility studies, not reconstructions of a dated event.
Then there is the volume claim. The book estimates that even a Flood large enough to float the ark with water visible to the horizon would require at least six billion acre-feet of water [1]. The paragraph does not supply a reproducible geometry or calculation, so the number marks a scale rather than a solved budget. And the budget’s several inflows never quite meet on the page: the aquifer study cited in this part of the book is a study of the aquifer’s origin and paleowater, not of its discharge under flood conditions; the ice-age warming sources document the climate excursions, not a routing of meltwater into Mesopotamia; and the meltwater leg itself — distant ice feeding this basin — appears in none of the studies the book attaches to it. It is the book’s own inference, and the book, fairly read, says so: the rapid-warming material is labeled model-dependent.
Our response
None of this argues that the model is wrong. It settles its present status: an outline whose load-bearing inflows are programmatic rather than computed. The Hills’ papers show what the next step looks like — rainfall rates, wind work, transport calculations — and the model needs the same treatment applied to its water budget as a whole, in one geometry, with its own numbers.
Test two: how fixed is the footprint?
The footprint is the model’s most testable part, because it makes a claim that Arabia’s archaeology can weigh in on. The book uses evidence of early human presence across Arabia and the Red Sea margins — habitable windows, migration corridors — to suggest that the Flood’s stage may have been larger than Mesopotamia and the Gulf alone [1].
Examined source by source, the corridor studies do what they say: they document periods when the Arabian interior was habitable and when dispersal routes were open. One of the load-bearing examples records humid windows and dispersal activity in southeast Arabia reaching back beyond the last interglacial [9].
A note for readers who check footnotes: the book’s page span for that study is misprinted (“295–2908”); the article’s actual pages are 295–298. The detail does not change the argument, but the site’s practice is to say so.
The corridor evidence cuts in an instructive direction. It shows that the Arabian interior was at times wet and passable — which supports the book’s broader point that human presence in the region was not confined to one lowland. But that same evidence places habitable windows in times that straddle the Flood window proposed in chapter 11, and says nothing about a flood’s boundary. Corridor availability measures where people could move; it cannot mark where water once stood. The book itself concedes the premise that would fix the footprint — the extent of pre-Flood settlement cannot be precisely determined. A footprint that follows the evidence of human presence therefore inherits the uncertainty of the archaeological record rather than adding evidence of its own.
Test three: is there a barrier to breach?
One of the model’s more vivid steps proposes that breaching a previously higher barrier at the Strait of Hormuz might have released Indian Ocean water into the Gulf basin [1]. The book presents it as a possibility, not an identified event, and that is the right register — because at the source level, the step is not yet visible in the literature the book cites for it.
The closest supporting study models the Mesopotamian basin’s long-term evolution and describes the Gulf’s connection history as incompletely constrained — a recognized research question, not a documented barrier [10]. The step’s other citations, reviewed at the source level, map regional seismicity, modern water-mass circulation through the strait, and coastal geomorphology — each real, and none reporting a pre-historic sill or its breach.
That does not make the proposal illegitimate. It makes it an additional hypothesis stacked under the main one: the model needs water, adds a barrier to supply it, and must then document the barrier before it can document the breach. What would test it is specific and available: a dated sill geometry, an erosional breach signature, and — the hardest part — a chronology that lands inside the proposed Flood window. Until those exist, the step belongs in the model as an open question, which is how the book’s own hedging phrases it.
Test four: can a flood predict its own erasure?
The most philosophically interesting part of the proposal is its treatment of evidence. The book argues that the Flood’s brevity and antiquity make an identifiable surviving deposit unlikely, and that repeated ice-age temperature excursions and sea-level changes would have erased or submerged whatever a regional Flood left [1].
In its origin, that argument comes from a working geologist: Carol Hill’s paper explains the pattern that bothers skeptics — flood layers at some Mesopotamian sites and not at others, at different levels, at different dates — as exactly what hydrologists expect, because floods erode sediment as well as deposit it [7]. As a hydrologic expectation, that is a fair point, and this site does not treat absent deposits as a decisive argument against a regional flood.
Our response
The book must simply be held to its own consequences: a model that expects no deposit must locate its evidence somewhere else, or accept the testability it has chosen. Its footprint is conditional; its barrier is undated; its water budget is programmatic; and its expected deposit need not survive. The book itself allows that large-tsunami shoreline deposits can preserve exceptionally well — so the discriminating question is available and should be asked: what observation, in what location, would distinguish this Flood from an ordinary regional inundation, or from no flood at all? If the answer is “none, until a deposit is found,” then the model and the “not yet found” position make the same predictions — and a proposal that makes no distinct predictions is, in the strict sense, not yet testable. That is a description of its current state, not an argument against its truth.
Test five: the ark’s uphill journey
The objection Alan Hill’s paper answers is real, and the book is right to engage it: on a Mesopotamian Flood, what stops the ark from drifting south into the Persian Gulf? Hill’s model answers with sustained wind — his calculations put the ark’s mass at about ten million pounds, its upstream journey at roughly 650–700 miles (well over 1,000 kilometers) over thirty-six to forty days, under winds in the 50–70 mph range [8]. The book reports the result as what it is: a model’s output.
The right reading is proportionate. This is a quantitative demonstration that wind-driven upstream transport is not physically absurd — a genuine contribution to the conversation, made at the level of published calculations rather than assertion. It is not a voyage; the model’s assumptions (wind persistence, wave effects set aside, simplified topography) are exactly the assumptions a first calculation makes. Whether the numbers survive a full hydrodynamic treatment with real terrain is an open question — and, again, a testable one.
What would make the model testable
Turn the tests into a to-do list and the shape of a real program appears:
- Fix the footprint from the paleogeography and archaeology of the flood window itself, independent of the human-presence inference — the book’s own hedge says why.
- Close the water budget: rainfall rates, aquifer discharge, barrier height, outlet capacity, and the volume the ark’s draft requires, all in one geometry.
- Date or drop the Hormuz barrier: a sill record, a breach signature, and a chronology.
- Name the diagnostic deposit and where to look for it — including the tsunami-shoreline class the book allows — and pre-register what would count as finding it versus not.
- Give the pre-Flood population premise numbers: a settlement-density estimate for the proposed region, not a speculation about murder rates.
What this leaves standing
Two things are true at once. The constructive half of the book is a more serious proposal than its critics usually admit — the questions it asks (where would the water come from, how would the ark travel, where did the evidence go) are the right questions, and parts of the answers exist in peer-reviewed form because the book’s own collaborators published them. But a proposal is not a confirmation. As it stands, the regional model rests on a conditional footprint, an unverified barrier, programmatic inflows, and an expected absence of deposits; its distinguishable predictions are still unwritten.
That is the fair summary of a research program in its first generation, and this response will update if the program produces the tests. What the model cannot do — even if every one of its mechanisms were eventually confirmed — is change what the Flood narrative says. A regional reconstruction is a claim about what happened; the text’s own scope is a claim about what God said. The earlier responses in this series examined the second question; this one examined the first, and leaves it where the book’s own hedging places it: a set of possibilities, awaiting its tests.